I don’t believe your name is Barbara

A couple of days ago I posted a piece titled “Hey Barb! (part of “Bring him to Justice”)” in which I rip into three messages sent by someone using the name “Barbara”.  These three messages were intended as comments on an earlier piece (June 2013) called “Bring him to justice – CAPTURED”.

Some background before I continue.  The “Bring him to justice” series deals with the Toronto Police Service search for one George Flowers, aka “Mr Flowas”, who is, in my opinion, a not very good rapper.  He is wanted on multiple charges of aggravated sexual assault for failing to disclose his HIV positive status to his partners – for at least fifteen years.  Some of those partners are now positive themselves.  Currently he is in a Jamaican jail while he exhausts all avenues of appeal against his extradition to Canada.

It was the first of the three messages that raises the most questions, not only my own, but from others who have read it. I’ll copy it here:

Barbara
10 minutes ago
You know nothing and this blog is discrediting his reputation as any logical person would know they have to prove that he gave it them and that can not be proven so… , your friends were so quick to bus it open and now that have something you want to call him a monster no one told you to have sex , he is no monster he made mistakes and will get the proper punishment most of these woman are just spiteful that they were fucked and dumped , watch what you say about a man that you know nothing about

Obviously, from my perspective, the writer hasn’t read any of the previous posts from the series or else they would have known that I state I’ve met George Flowers and actually know a fair bit about him and also state I know some of the people he’s dated.  And as a  writer, I also find the lack of punctuation disturbing.

Some people who have read these messages made the observation that if they – particularly this first one – were in fact written by a woman, then she’s gone off her anti-psychotic meds.  They further state they cannot believe any woman could come to the defence of this man knowing what he’s done. One person wrote the following:  I can’t even begin to go there with this lunatic bitch… obviously she is under some kind of fairy tale spell.

Other people believe this was actually written by a man.  They feel the word choice and that they open the message with a defence of Flowers indicate more of a male mindset since it seems the writer is blaming the women for what happened.  That may be for it seems to be more of a male attitude to blame the victim.

Whether it was written by a man or a woman is immaterial.  What matters is that some deluded soul is defending George Flowers. You must ask yourself would they feel the same if it were their sister; girlfriend, or just a friend who was now HIV positive after dating George Flowers?    I strongly suspect they’d be searching for the highest tree from which to lynch him.

Cat.

Hey Barb! (part of “Bring him to justice”)

You don’t mind if I call you Barb, do you?

This is about the three comments you posted on “Bring him to justice – CAPTURED!” last night.  Before I start, just so you know, I began writing about the charges against, and the search for, George Flowers on August 14, 2012 and the piece you commented on was written June 11, 2013, so my question is “Where have you been hiding for the past two-and-a-half years?”

Now, your comments.  First, this one:
Barbara
10 minutes ago
You know nothing and this blog is discrediting his reputation as any logical person would know they have to prove that he gave it them and that can not be proven so… , your friends were so quick to bus it open and now that have something you want to call him a monster no one told you to have sex , he is no monster he made mistakes and will get the proper punishment most of these woman are just spiteful that they were fucked and dumped , watch what you say about a man that you know nothing about watch what you say about a man that you know nothing about

This is so full of inaccuracies, probably including your name, I don’t know where to start.  To use your own words, “any logical person would know” the Toronto Police Service must feel they have sufficient evidence to lay those charges.  “He is no monster he made mistakes”.  That must be some great ganja you’ve got.  The Oxford Dictionary describes a mistake as “an error in judgement”, among other things.  That for fifteen years he failed to tell any of his partners he was HIV positive takes his actions far beyond the “mistake” range and puts him squarely into monster territory.  Another inaccuracy (don’t worry, I’m almost done) is your “fucked and dumped” comment.  At least two women I know did the dumping, not him, which is the complete opposite of your claim.  Finally, in what moment  of clairvoyant clarity did you determine I know nothing about the man.  I’ve met him and spent time in his company.  I know he’s married and has kids and I even know his wife’s name.  I also know that rather than cross the street to hear him perform, I’d cross the street to avoid hearing him.   By the way, out of curiosity, should I consider your “watch what you say about a man that you know nothing about” a threat?

Now, your second message:
Barbara
9 minutes ago
where are you getting your information

Sorry Barb, like any respectable journalist, I won’t reveal my sources.

And, your final message:
Barbara
8 minutes ago
lastly if he is found guilty he will get less than 10 years and then be free now tell me would you be scared of a man you just convicted

No, I wouldn’t be scared.  Actually, if it were up to me, I’d have charged him with attempted murder, not aggravated sexual assault, and if any of his victims have passed on, I’d charge him with first degree murder.  Yes, first degree, because he made a conscious decision not to reveal his status.  And Barb, consider this: People convicted of the crimes he is charged with, especially if they are HIV positive, are not among the elite in the prison hierarchy.  He can expect to have a very rough time in prison.  Things happen in prisons so he may not make it through that sentence.

I hope I answered your questions and concerns.

Cat

Bring him to justice – progress report

Many, many thanks to two readers, cm and Concerned Follower, for providing me with the link to the following article which appeared in The Jamaican Observer of Monday, October 13, 2014:

Jamaican wanted in Canada on sex charges fights extradition

KINGSTON, Jamaica – A Jamaican man, who was ordered extradited last month to Canada where he’s wanted for trial on sex crimes, has taken his fight to remain in the island to the Supreme Court.

The man, George Flowers, is to appear in the Supreme Court today where he’s challenging the ruling in the Corporate Area Resident Magistrate’s Court that he be extradited.

The order was made by Magistrate Simone Wolfe-Reece, who told Flowers that he could appeal the decision to another court within 15 days.

Should Flowers lose his battle against extradition in the Supreme Court, he has the option of taking that fight to the Court of Appeal.

Flowers, who goes by the name Mr Flowas, is wanted in Canada on several counts of  aggravated sexual assault.

He was arrested in Jamaica on June 4.

That arrest date is actually June 4, 2013.

In this case, “aggravated sexual assault” means he was HIV positive and never told any of his partners.

I’d like to say “this is it”, but I know it probably won’t be.  Should the Supreme Court uphold Madame Wolfe-Reece’s decision, as the article states, Flowers could go to the Court of Appeal.  And, in the event the Supreme Court sets aside the lower court’s ruling, I’m quite certain the Crown will appeal.  Either way, unfortunately it ain’t over yet folks.

I started the “Bring him to justice” series on August 14, 2012, a day after the Toronto Police Service issued their first Public Safety Alert on George Flowers.  I’m saddened to say that other than a brief flurry when the PSA was issued and a brief interview conducted by Global Television Toronto with one of his victims, there has been no Canadian (or even Toronto) coverage of this.  The only media coverage I’ve seen has been the above article and one other short piece in Jamaican papers.

I know it’s been a long time between postings on this matter, but I refuse to print rumour and this is the first confirmed information I’ve had since I wrote of his capture.  As more confirmed  information becomes available, I will issue updates.

Following is a copy of an email I received from the detective in charge of this case, which I feel bears repeating:

Hello Cat,

I am the officer investigating the aggravated sexual assault allegations against George Flowers.

I have stumbled upon your blog and have read what has been going on.

I appreciate you making more people aware of this investigation as we deem this situation as a major public safety risk.

My goal is to find and speak with anyone who has had sexual contact with Mr. Flowers.  They need to know that there is an active investigation and given the option of whether they would proceed with police involvement.  His non-disclosure actions are criminal whether or not a sexual encounter resulted in HIV infection. A lot of people are under the impression that if they DIDN’T contract HIV, that they have no criminal claim and that is false. The charge is for the “threat” of contracting the virus at the time of sexual contact if they were NOT advised of someone’s HIV status PRIOR to any sexual encounter.

The reason I am telling you this is because you indicated in your blog that you have spoken to other people who have been previous sexual partners of Mr. Flowers.

If you have any further information in regards to his whereabouts or anything else, I would appreciate it.  You can remain anonymous.  If you can also advise the other people who have been previous partners of Mr. Flowers of what I wrote, it would be appreciated.

If you have questions, don’t hesitate to call me.

Thanks in advance for your time.

Regards,

Nancy Johnston
Detective Constable #8734
Family Violence Unit
Toronto Police Service
Phone: (416)-808-5505
Email: Nancy.Johnston@torontopolice.on.ca

Note especially the bold section.

If Detective Johnston isn’t available, please speak with one of the other detectives in the unit .

Cat.

Why not wait for details?

We have heard, seen and read much about the unfortunate shooting of a young man on a Toronto streetcar this past weekend.

There has been a great outcry over this incident, based on a blurry cellphone video and news reports.  The problem is that this is still being investigated – we don’t really know what happened.  All the video shows (and this video did not capture the events from the beginning) is a young man standing on a streetcar wielding a knife near the front door and an officer on the street firing his weapon after orders to drop the knife were ignored.  What led to this point; a moment in time that affected not only the family of this young man, but the officer as well?

I’ve heard the question “why didn’t the police use a taser rather than shoot him?”  Why?  Simple.  Because the officers on the street don’t carry tasers.  According to my information, at any given time, there are perhaps 15 tasers on the street of Toronto, each in the possession of a patrol sergeant.   The reports state this young man was tasered after he was shot.  If so, the police obviously felt they had just cause.  The fact there are only 15 tasers on the street at any time naturally gives rise to the suggestion that all front-line officers be issued tasers.

I’ll admit I’m of two minds on this idea.  Granted, it would provide another level of deterrent when dealing with a situation before resorting to deadly force.  On the other hand, the case of
Robert Dziekan’ski at Vancouver International Airport does provide a good example of what can happen.  And there have been other cases where use of a taser has resulted in the death of someone.  Now from what I recall, some of these cases were the result of underlying medical causes aggravated by the voltage, but in the Robert Dziekan’ski case, his death was eventually ruled as homicide.

Now, I know all my readers are law-abiding citizens, but you may have a friend who isn’t.  Think for a moment: How would you feel if that friend were to die from a heart attack brought on by what is supposed to be a non-lethal way of subduing him?

Cat

Bring him to justice – CAPTURED!!!

An elite squad from the Jamaican Constabulary Force has arrested George Flowers aka ‘Mr Flowas” on Canadian warrants of aggravated sexual assault. This happened about 1 pm Toronto time June 4.  At the time of writing, Flowers is in a Jamaican jail awaiting an extradition hearing.

As with all cases involving someone captured in a foreign country, the person can either waive or fight the extradition order.  In this case, waiving extradition would mean Flowers could be returned to Canada post-haste or, if he fights it, he will spend time in a Jamaican prison.  I must admit I have mixed feelings about this situation.  As I wrote in the original posting “Bring him to justice” I know people who dated this man.  Yes, I’m glad he’s finally been detained.  It’s about time this piece of garbage was off the streets so he can’t infect anyone else.

This is good news, but it is tempered by this: if he waives extradition, or the Jamaican courts reject his arguments, he will be returned to Canada to stand trial. While the police investigation and search have awakened memories in his victims, the worst could still be ahead for them.  It is my understanding Mr Flowers now has AIDS and is extremely ill.  Given his condition, I would hope there is a possibility he would plead guilty.  If he doesn’t, then his lawyers will do their best to discredit his victims.  These victims don’t need to relive that part of their lives again; nor do they deserve to have their reputations dragged through the gutter, neither should they have the lives they’ve carefully rebuilt destroyed, yet this could happen under our system of justice.

One victim has told me that in hearing of his arrest she feels she has received some justice and is very elated at this news.

As more information becomes available, I’ll report it.

To repeat what Detective Johnston wrote earlier,    His non-disclosure actions are criminal whether or not a sexual encounter resulted in HIV infection. A lot of people are under the impression that if they DIDN’T contract HIV, that they have no criminal claim and that is false. The charge is for the “threat” of contracting the virus at the time of sexual contact if they were NOT advised of someone’s HIV status PRIOR to any sexual encounter.  If the fact George was at large has kept you from contacting the police in the past, now that he’s in custody, I urge you to please contact Detective Nancy Johnston, Toronto Police Service, 55 Division at 416-808-5505.

Cat.

For those who are interested, following is a chronological list of the complete series dealing with George Flowers:

Bring him to justice
Bring him to justice – followup
This and that
Bring him to justice – echoes from the past
Bring him to justice – updated photo
Bring him to justice – reaction
Bring him to justice – update
I guess the answer is “yes”
Bring him to justice – silence
Bring him to justice – stop the nonsense
Blogs: Opinion pieces or news reports?
Updates and comments
Bring him to justice – media questions
WordsupPressed
Bring him to justice – my perspective
Bring him to justice – nationwide
Bring him to justice – a victim speaks
Bring him to justice – more media questions
Honestly, I don’t care
I can’t do that
Bring him to justice – recap
Bring him to justice – CAPTURED!!!

You sir, are dangerous

A friend posted a photo and two quotes on Facebook yesterday.  The photo is of an American senator and no I won’t tell you who, or his party affiliation, or what state he represents, purely to save him any further embarrassment.

His comments referred to AIDS and were both uninformed and highly inaccurate.  There were no dates or places attached to these quotes, so I don’t know how old, or new, they are but they would have incensed me anyway.

Here’s his first comment: Most people realize that AIDS came from the homosexual community.  It was one guy screwing a monkey, if I recall correctly, and then having sex with men.  It was an airline pilot, if I recall.  Senator, you are so far off-base on this you aren’t even in the ballpark.  A while ago I read an article, probably on the Toronto Star news site, about research that had been done on the origins of AIDS in humans.  I do not recall the author of the research nor the institute that conducted it. If anyone knows, please tell me so I may amend this posting and give them proper credit.

According to this research, poor tribesmen would capture, kill and skin monkeys in order to sell both the meat and the hides.  If you’ve ever worked in a kitchen preparing food, you know how easy it can be to cut yourself.  No different in this case.  They would cut themselves accidentally and then come in contact with the monkey blood.  If the monkey was infected, the virus would transfer to the human.  Some of these tribesmen would also sell their blood to augment their income which is how AIDS made its way into the blood supply.  No bestiality has taken place Senator, except in your tiny mind.

The person referred to as “Patient Zero” was a steward for Air Canada (sorry Senator, not  pilot – your memory is wrong).  He was involved in a crash of some kind in one of these African nations and required a transfusion.  Unfortunately, the blood was tainted.  Being gay, when he returned to Canada, he engaged in sexual activity with other men, which spread the disease.

The senator’s other comment is equally stupid – and that’s the only word for it.  My understanding is that it is virtually, not completely but virtually, impossible to contract AIDS through heterosexual sex … very rarely.  Senator, you are a complete ass.  Senator, I suggest you read my series of postings under the heading “Bring him to justice”, then explain to the ten victims of George Flowers who are now HIV positive how it is “virtually impossible” for them to have contracted HIV/AIDS from Flowers.  I’m sure they’ll give you a proper hearing before they laugh you out of the room.  By the way Senator, George Flowers is now wanted by the Toronto Police Service on at least ten charges of aggravated sexual assault related to these women.

Surely, as a senator in the Government of the United States of America his office budget would allow for a research clerk.  Before he opened his mouth and proved his stupidity, couldn’t he have asked someone to get him some factual information on AIDS?

I’m not sure which I find more frightening, that people actually elected this man or, that since he is a senator, they will accept his pronouncements as gospel.  As I wrote in the title, this man is dangerous.

Cat.

**Since posting this, I have learned this foolish, foolish man is a state senator, not federal. C **

Bring him to justice – recap

Last August I began a series of posts under the general title “Bring him to justice” following the release of a Public Safety Alert by the Toronto Police Service.  The subject of this PSA was one George Flowers, aka “Mr Flowas”, wanted for aggravated sexual assault.  This man was diagnosed HIV positive in 1996 but neglected to tell his sexual partners, some of whom are now themselves HIV positive.  My interest in this case arises from the fact I know people he dated.

As new verifiable information became available, or as I felt it necessary to respond to comments on postings, I would add another posting to the series. According to the last verifiable report, actually an updated PSA, he was facing twelve charges.  I haven’t added anything over the past couple of months for the simple reason I won’t print rumours.  Oh, I’ve heard stories that he’s been spotted here or there; that he’s being hidden somewhere, or that he’s turned himself in.  But without any confirmation, I won’t print these canards and nobody can confirm the information.  So it doesn’t get printed.  One further reason for that decision, especially the rumour he’s turned himself in, is that it would give false hope to his victims, and their lives are hard enough without me adding to their difficulties.

If you have any information on the present whereabouts of George Flowers, or you wish to add yourself to the list of victims, I urge you to contact Detective Nancy Johnston at the Toronto Police Service, 55 Division, telephone number 416-808-5505.  You can also contact CrimeStoppers anonymously with your information.  According to information from Det Johnston, you don’t have to have been diagnosed positive to file a complaint, just that fact you were with him is enough.

Considering the lack of interest from the mainstream media on this, I feel confident that if something does happen on the search for George Flowers, you’ll read it here first.

Cat.

“He’s an innocent kid”

Since the middle of August, there have been a series of sexual assaults in the Bloor West Village area of Toronto.  “Sexual assault” in Canadian law covers everything from inappropriate touching to rape.  In each case, the victim was approached from behind and groped.  These all occurred after dark, usually on side streets where, since this is an older area of the city, the trees often prevent the light from streetlamps reaching the sidewalk.

The police put extra officers into the area, including undercover officers, in an attempt to arrest this man.  Their efforts worked.  Last night a 15 year old boy was arrested and charged with14 counts of sexual assault.  In an interview on CTV Toronto News, the boy’s uncle said, as I showed in the title “He’s an innocent kid”.  Sure he is. He was arrested while groping an undercover cop.  Don’t know where the uncle is living, but being caught in the act normally blows the “innocent” idea out of the water around Toronto.

According to the uncle, his nephew said to the uncle “they set me up”.  Right.  They set you up how?  By having a young undercover cop walk down a side street where you could get her alone?  Was she wearing a sign on her back that said “grope me”?  I don’t think so.  Nobody set you up except your own desires.

“He’s an innocent kid” my ass.   The only shame in this is that since he’s fifteen years of age, the maximum sentence will be three years under the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

To my readers, enjoy your week.  Remember to hug an artist – we need love too and always be aware of your surroundings.

Cat.

Bring him to justice – a victim speaks

Earlier today I posted “Bring him to justice – nationwide” about the fact the Toronto Police Service has issued a Canada wide warrant for George Flowers, aka “Mr Flowas”.  This man is now wanted on 11 charges of aggravated sexual assault.

The new Public Safety Alert was issued at 10:55 this morning according to the police website.  I first heard a news report of this PSA on the noon news and had posted “Bring him to justice – nationwide” by 12:30.  Sometime between the release of the PSA and about 1:10 PM, someone called the Toronto affiliate of the Global Television Network to tell them of this.  Consequently, Global contacted the detective and arranged an interview with one of his victims.

Until now, the bulk of the publicity of the search for George Flowers has come through these postings.  I hope my words have been effective in convincing those he dated to contact the police.  I hope they have, but they are only words.  Now, there is an interview with someone.  Here is the link to the news item and interview:  http://www.globaltoronto.com/hiv+positive+man+wanted+for+aggravated+sexual+assault+charges/6442727205/story.html

I urge you to listen to this interview, listen to how this lady’s life has been affected and hear  how callous George Flowers was when she told him she was positive.

If you know George Flowers, aka “Mr Flowas”, do the right thing and contact your local police force or CrimeStoppers.

Cat.

Bring him to justice – nationwide

Earlier today, the Toronto Police Service obtained a Canada-wide warrant for George Flowers, aka “Mr Flowas” on 11 charges of aggravated sexual assault.   Here is the link to this new Public Safety Alert:
http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/pdfs/24672.pdf
At the time the original release was issued on August 13, it was believed by some who knew him that he was either being hidden somewhere in Toronto, or had fled to Jamaica.  I would suggest that by issuing the Canada-wide alert, Toronto Police believe he is somewhere in Canada, rather than off-shore.

Mr Flowers, according to the original Alert, and repeated in this new one, has been HIV positive since 1996, but neglected to mention this to any of his partners, some of whom have now tested positive.  If you know this man George Flowers, who performs under the name “Mr Flowas”, if you know where he is, do a lot of women a favour and report his whereabouts to your local police department or CrimeStoppers.  We need to get him off the streets before he infects any more people.

Cat.